Saturday, January 28, 2006

Crazy ramblings of a dysfunctional mind - TCS Med Checkup

Goodness me. When I read this next piece of humour, I couldn't help laugh my lungs out (or whatever the phrase is). All of you "lucky" ones who have been 'placed' in the Indian IT bigwig, TCS, must by now be aware that you have to undergo one medical check-up probably at some uninhabited place in SEEPZ. One of my friends has already had the privelege of taking the test and has provided an absolutely comprehensive account of the entire episode.

You might not know the characters in the tale, (which you can accept as a great piece of fiction, if you so desire) so here is some introduction. All characters mentioned are to-be engineers from a prestigious engineering college from Mumbai and are all hiers to their families' bigshot business houses, yet are trying their hand at other 'lucrative jobs'. The author, you can call him Rish, is a witty but laid back individual having interests in Tennis, food, ... I think the list ends here. Parag, drives to college in a Skoda and plays an important role in the story. Vanja, already having secured an admit to a top US University is least bothered about a job paying him just 2lac per annum and is at the check-up just because he has nothing else to do, I think so! Chiru has decided he is gonna join TCS, so probably must be seriuos about the check-up. Also, he is anyways famous for his stares and cold looks, if you trouble him even just a tad too much. Harshil plays a cameo in the tale, as Rish's Tennis opponent who has just lost 6-3 to him. And, there's Mallika Sherawat doing a guest appearance too. So enjoy this non-fictional (yes!) , humourous and absolute funny first-hand account of the ordeal.

Crazy ramblings of a dysfunctional mind:

This account relives the traumatic experience which we underwent on the 21st wen we went for the TCS medical check up.Its content is
authentic and veracious(mostly.....)though certain liberties may have been taken in terms of interpretation.

We had our medical test on the 21st.Other innocent victims will be tackled on 28th,4th and whatever other dates in hell.Below is the exact account of what could happened to us and cud happen to you on ur med test day.

So on 21st morning ,at around 8:45 parag gandhi calls up and informs u tht there is this med test thingie at 8:30 today at cdc,seepz.So u quickly get ready,curse him,have ur Breakfast,curse him,take the car keys,curse him and leave as soon as u can,still doing full justice to the job of cursing him for informing u so late about something which u,by all accounts,should have known urself.Then wen u re about to turn the car key,u realize u have no clue in hell,where seepz is.So u call him again,take directions,get urself in some crazy,narrow,hidden lanes,uninhabited by man or beast,ask rickshawallahs for further directions,get ur ass stuck in deadends,curse the rickshawallahs and finally reach the damn place a good 70 minutes late.

U enter and inform the receptionist with a suave smile,tht u re here for the tcs medical check up.He doesnt care to look up,passes on a form and asks u for the acceptance letter of tcs.Obviously u dont have it on ur person.he probably curses u under his breath,but takes ur word ,and ushers u in to this small room and hands u a pen,he then thrusts 2 lenghty sheets in front of u.These are the preliminary forms .Their purpose is to discover if u,ur mother,or father,or aunt,or cousin or neighbour,or his cousin happen to be suffering from AIDS,tuberculosis,meningitis,malaria,eye infection,skin infection,hair infection,any bizzare,unheard of STD,fractures,ligament tears,heart attacks,all of it ,any of it.U know,basically gives u this nice,rosy picture of whats in store. Neways,next u enter this main hall where around 4 thousand of us are offered to make ourselves comfortable in about two and a half chairs.Upside,u notice,is tht there is a tv in the room showing pakistan walloping india s bowling "attack".

Neways,u get to the back row where parag,vanja,chiru and the others are gravely discussing some earth shattering issue of national importance.3 minutes into it,u realize that,true to form, they re all talking shit,and none of them really gives a damn about what nonsense the other is saying.So u cheerfully join in giving ur nonsense views on a matter,of which u have absolutely no idea.But a couple of minutes of such senseless talk is enuff to bore even us.So gradually,u remember ure here for a purpose.U look around.Labels proclaiming Opthalmology,Sonography,X ray,ECG,Blood collection,General check up remind u tht enlightening tho it may be,this conv with gandhi and vanja,the main purpose of ur being here is the medical checkup.Sure enuff,there r nurses n docs scurrying around to confirm the above view,if any doubt lingered.then u lean over and ask ur good neighbour tht y dont they start the medical checkup if thts wat we re here for.Ure neighbour is,using all 4 limbs, several fingers,3 languages(and some scrambled gibberish) he manages to say "i dunno either".After tht terrific effort,he gets back to gazing at the pullout pics of mallika sherawat in the latest issue of startdust.
So u wait.
And wait.
Some 13 weeks later,wen u wanna go out to shave this long beard uve developed,there is suddenly some faint activity.Apparently,things have finally begun.One by one names are called out and the lucky ones get to go in for some checkups.

It is in times like these that u realize how many names human beings can have.U hear just about every guju twist to the suffix
"-esh"(nilesh,hiresh,swapnesh.......)being called for his turn and conclude ur turn must now definitely be around the corner.Yet defying all known laws of permutation,combination and imagination there are more (dharmesh,ritesh,prathamesh.........).Yours apparently is the one name they forgot.Finallllly,some bloke calls u to the blood collection centre.Ur mates congratulate u on ur good fortune,give u hi5s and bear hugs.Ur a rejuvenated man as u walk towards the aforementioned unit.

Thts wen ritesh walks out of it with a hideous grimace,clutching his hand as though its been torpedoed.Now,uve taken injections before,its no big deal but all of a sudden,there is an urge to call up ur mom n dad for one last time ,and call up harshil to remind him of ur previous set score one last time(i beat him 6-3.....again).Naah,u shake off the irrational fear and go in n take a seat.Thts wen this kindly looking nurse beams this beatific smile at u and makes small talk about the weather.God,then,is in his heaven n all is well in earth,u conclude.Then she rubs some antiseptic on ur forearm ,injects u and collects 3 test tubes of blood.Its all pretty normal and painless.U conclude tht ritesh is probably a blood relative of parag and hence an awful ham.

One by one the other tests are performed .In our own ways,we all try to go n talk with the chief co-ordinator to expedite
things.i give this crappy excuse about having to attend some brothers wedding which she d probly heard 700 times before,parag creates this awful scene by going n fighting n arguing and then being screamt at n sent back,vanja hems n haws,then dodders,then walks up to the co-ordinators,chews 3 nails n returns without uttering a word,chiru goes up n glares......all to no avail.But gradually,things move on.U get to hear some expected things (1.Opthalmologist:"Ur watch too much tv,ur messin ur eyes".....,2.General Physician:"Ur an overweight slob"....,3.Refreshments Co-ordinator:"No ,u may not have any more helpings"....."yes,they are complementary,but ure not the only one we re feeding,though u may become so if we give u any more helpings"......,4.crappy jokes from vanja) and some unexpected things(1.Vanja cracking a good joke,which pretty much means he s done with his share for 2006....2.Parag:"my neice likes
me"{for the uninformed,parags sis recently delivered a v.cute baby girl}.......3.Parag:" i think....."{an obvious lie}) .but by 2:30.....around 5 odd hours after u had entered ur finally thru.

And thus,we have all served our sentence.No shortcuts taken,jus pure ol grit.Sure we ve greyed a bit and lost some
hair n teeth n memory in the process,n we all limp n use walking aids now but imp thing is we lived to talk bout it.And tht also sums up this crappy account,in case ur still reading.

[PS:No offence intended ppl,was jus really bored and felt like writing a lotta shit....which i did.]

Enjoyed the rhapsody, didn't you? Wonder what it would be like to be there at TCS, if the appetizers were so interesting. Something to ponder about, but I hope the main course would definitely be better. So, until someone comes up with a hands-on account of that, savour this tale.

Tuesday, January 24, 2006

The Indian tail wags.

Consider this, at the Indian first innings in the second Test against Pakistan, 286 runs were scored by Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Yuvraj, Tendulkar and the extras put together, while the tail added 317 runs. This is something not too common in Indian cricket. Indians are famous for their batting debacles, something which Navjot Singh Siddhu has often described as a number of cycles collapsing at the cycle stand. But, the scene is fast changing, and changing for good. The Indian Tail is wagging, showing grit and determination. The dum (duum - tail in 'hindi') is showing its dum (dum - strength in 'hindi').

Who is to be blamed or rather praised for this? I think it is our coach, Mr. Greg Chappell. We have seen enough footage of the Indian team's nets to confirm this. Never before were Pathan and Harbhajan seen practising on adjacent practice pitches, at a training camp (I forgot where I saw this snap, but it was good to see such a thing). But, it is helping us. How else could you reason the brilliant effort put on by the Indian lower order, especially Dhoni and Pathan at the second Test?

Critics and 'experts' did not seem to support the idea of experimenting with the batting order, especially when the Indians left the Sri Lankans guessing about the one-down position during the recent home series. Kapil Dev and the likes even called the Indian cricket team, Chappell's Laboratory. But, Greg seemed unaffected. He carried on with his strategies and plans and they sure seem to be working. The 'fights' with Dada did more harm to Dada himself, than to the coach and Ganguly had to sit out of the second test at Faisalabad.

Although, Greg Chappell needs to pay a lot more attention at the Indian bowling department, especially to tackle gutsy players like Inzamam-ul-Haq, Younis Khan and the likes. Special attention needs to be paid to Harbhajan Singh who does not seem dangerous at all. Imran Khan has commented that, Pathan's lack of pace is due to a faulty grip; the validity of his comments need to be comfirmed and immediate action initiated if required. Also the support staff should look into the fitness of the fast bowlers who have a notorious reputation of suffering from injuries, Agarkar had to be dropped due to a pulled hamstring.

In all, I think it is a very bright sign that the Indian tail is wagging, but the only hope is that it should do this more consistently and more importantly, should not fail at its primary responsibilities, that are bowling well and taking wickets. If it does so, Indian Cricket is sure to rise back to a much higher pedestal. Let's have "Aashayein ..." on this team, what with the Faisalabad ground being called the Iqbal Stadium!!!

Remember, my blog on Pachmarhi? Well, some of my friends liked it very much, to extent that they called it a travellouge. I don't know about you, but to proceed from where I left that blog, I am writing here about the awesome Bedhaghat Falls and about the city of Jabalpur.

As the title of this blog suggests, the Bedhaghat Falls are nothing but the Niagara Falls, zipped. The Fall isn't too high nor is too majestic, as the Canadian (or American?) natural wonder. Yet, there is something about the Falls that holds your attention and your fantasy for quite long. You need to be there, to understand what I mean to say. The Falls have originated as the river Narmada flows ferociously through the natural beauites of Badhghat. The river is absolutely pure, mark my words,
absolutely pure: to an extent that, we filled up a bottle of the flowing water and it had no visible suspensions in it. And the taste of that water was also very sweet and fulfilling.

There is something in the fall that leaves you dumbfounded..., spellbound... and... what not. Just concentrate at the point where the most pacy of the water hits the rocks underneath; goodness me, you would not take your eyes off it for a long long time. I have never been to the Niagara, but I bet it would leave a similar impact on you and your senses. Have a look at the snaps here, and savour them.

Whadya have to say about the Falls, brilliant, aren't they? I am sure, you agree.

Moving slightly away from this wonderful place, let me tell you about one more interesting place near the Falls - The Marble Rocks Nauka Vihar or the Boat Ride. If you are fascinated enough by the beauty of white marble or any marble for that matter, do not miss this hour long boat ride that you can take in rowing boats. A cheap means of satisfying your hunger for natural scenic beauty is taking this boat ride in the picturesque Narmada. It has loads of scenes that would leave you wanting for more. I cannot say anything more, just that please visit this place atleast once to enjoy a "never before" experience in India. Albiet, do it soon before it is hounded by irresponsible tourists and greedy tour-operators. A bit of trivia, remember the song 'Raat Ka Nasha Abhi, ...' from the forgettable(?) Shahrukh Khan film Asoka? Well, Kareena Kapoor danced to this song, at this very place. Enjoy!

Sunday, January 22, 2006

"India's Big Cats" - "Amm, who?"

"India's Big Cats" - "Amm, who?"

Well, do not be disturbed, if you hear such a conversation sometime in the future. What's bad is, you could hear this, much sooner than you would expect. Yes, that is as much a startling fact as is the 'almost' record-breaking feat of Rahul Dravid and Virender Sehwag at Lahore. Sadly enough, India' big cats are fast becoming a thing of the past. It is not too far when someone would ask you, "What does a lion look like?" Then again, what's worse is that there is no guarantee that you could reply, "Let's go to the Gir Lion Sanctuary in Gujarat, and I will show you some lions." because, as CNN-IBN points out in a recent series dedicated to lions, even Gir lions are facing a serious danger of extinction.

If you noticed it, the report focused on lions, as against the media favorite - Tiger. This can be justified by comparing the populations of the two big cat families - around 3000 tigers, while only around 300 lions. Add to it the fact that tigers are found all over India, while its wild cousin, the lion, is concentrated only in the Gir Sanctuary. So, one epidemic breaks out at Gir, and the entire lion community is extinct. If this isn't sad, then what is?

Returning to my previous statement, " ... tigers are found all over India ... ", did it amuse you? I am sure it would have, because we are so used to hearing that the tiger is almost extinct and is found only in certain parts of the country and such other 'facts'. So to confirm whether the national animal - tiger - is actually found all over the country, I decided to check out a few websites on tiger conservation, Indian Government's Wildlife protection acts, and such other reliable sources. And interestingly enough I found the following results;


The magnificent Tiger ,Panthera Tigris (Linnaeus), is a striped animal. It has a thick yellow coat of fur with dark stripes. The combination of grace, strength, agility and enormous power has earned the tiger its pride of the species known, The Indian race, the Royal Bengal Tiger , is found throughout the country except in the north -western region and also in the neighboring countries, Nepal, Bhutan and Bangladesh...

...Outside Africa, India is the only place where lions exist today. Its wild cousin, the tiger, on the other hand is found almost throughout the country, numbering around 3000-5000...

...People have started moving towards these national parks as the ultimate tourist destinations. Besides this, the wildlife in these nature parks is blooming...

So, is this an irony or what? On one hand, we are compelled into believing that the tiger is fast reducing in number, while on the other, we are given an impression that the tiger family inhabitates almost the entire country. This is both, an irony as also a lament. To put it in simple words, the tiger, even today, is actually found almost all over India and the whole sad story is that we are not protecting it.

Then what can we do to protect it?

The Media (people's favorite scapegoat), on its part, can do much better than publish front page NEWS about celebrities' dogs being lost-and-found. It can do much better than focus on limited facts or still worse, misquote facts or let people misconstrue them. True journalism is the need of the day, should I dare say this? I don't suggest you bore people by telling sad tales about the endangered species, but please let people see hope in their protection programmes. Do not predict the year when we will have no tigers or lions, project a possible increase in their population and show some means of realizing it. When a wild cat kills a child outside Sanjay Gandhi National Park, please don't lie by saying that the cat encroached into city land and killed a human; when we all know, who is encroaching where and who is killing whom, don't we? Atleast, stir we people out of our tolerant sleeps and instigate us to do our bit for wildlife protection.

Well, we people, can we do only a bit on our part or is there anything more that I and you can do? As they say, a collective effort can definitely prove helpful. We can start by pledging our support to organisations involved in the safety of the big cats (You can easily do this on the net). We can also give in our suggestions to them at their websites. Instead of sending (should I again dare say this?) silly emails we can collect such startling facts and have them sent, so that atleast a few of us can be made aware of our responsibilities towards mother nature. We can post on official government websites regarding this and atleast hope that they take some initiative on this front. There is a lot we can do on our part, we just need to start and the results could be good.

As we near our Republic Day, can I quote a slogan: 'Save the Tiger - Save The Lion - Save The Wildlife - Save Nature - Save Us?'

Or should I pen, 'Let Mother Nature retain (or should it be regain) some of its dignity. Let us behave as responsible citizens of India and of the world on the whole.'

Does this seem too far fetched? Is this asking for too much? No, I don't think so. What about you?

Wednesday, January 11, 2006

India Shining once again - Intel Duo-Centrino lanuched

A Great step for laptop technology.

A Greater step for India.

So proclaims the advertisement of Intel's brand new product for mobile computing - Centrino Duo. Indeed it's a great step for laptop technology, considering that battery life is among the prime concerns of laptop owners. The new dual-core processing can truly revolutionarize the experience of using a laptop and provide expanded connectivity. Indeed, it's a great step for mobile computing (and for Intel), but as the advertisement rightly says it is also a great step for India and
India's R&D potentials.

The fact that a substantial part of the technology was developed by the Indian wing of Intel can surely make any Indian feel proud about it. It goes a long way in acknowledging the country's tremendous potential in research and development. It is not just that Indian proffesionals are respected all over the world. It is because we truly deserve it. Indian youth, as we all know, is among the brightest and smartest lot of people in the world. This product launch has just provided an example of how Indian innovation has contributed towards changing the world. Even Albert Einstein had once quoted that India has given the world arithmetic, without which no scientific discovery could ever have been possible, and hence we owe a lot to India.

Today the engineers at Intel India have continued the legacy that the great scientists and mathematicians of the past have given us - making India proud. The senior vice president at Intel expressed that by the end of 2007, 100% of all the components that go into a PC will be designed by India. I think, that would be something that we Indians could be really proud of rather than telling the world that we are the leaders in the BPO market and the Call Centre Industry - something which I seriously feel is quite below the kind of potential that Indian youth possess. We can do much better than talk over the phone with a hundred people a day, try and solve their problems and also get abused in return (however I know that not many would agree to this).

Just to leave you with some proud trivia about India, most of which would already be known to you,
(I do not take credit for the following, the facts have been collected from over the net)

First a few starters,

Who is the creator of Pentium chip ?

Vinod Dahm

Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems?

Vinod Khosla

Who are the founder and creator of Hotmail?

Sabeer Bhatia

Who is the president of Bell Labs (Bell Labs is the creator of C, C++, Unix)?

Arun Netravalli

Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard?

Rajiv Gupta

Who is the Microsoft Testing Director of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems?

Sanjay Tejwrika

Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, McKenzie & Stanchart?

Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar.

To continue, take these,

Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even faring better than the whites and the natives.

There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (just 1.5% of the population). YET,
38% of doctors in USA are Indians.

12% scientists in USA are Indians.

36% of NASA scientists are Indians.

34% of Microsoft employees are Indians.

28% of IBM employees are Indians.

17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.

13% of XEROX employees are Indians.

Now the main course, a few of India's past achievements;

  • India invented the Number system. Aryabhatta invented 'zero'.
  • India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.
  • The world's first University was established in Takshashila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education.
  • According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software.
  • Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans.
  • Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty striken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth.
  • The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word "Navigation" is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH.
  • The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan's works dates to the 6th Century, which is long before the European mathematicians.
  • Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 1053.
  • According to the Gemological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world.
  • USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi.
  • The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra.
  • Chess was invented in India.
  • Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like cesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anesthesia was well known in ancient India.
  • When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilization).
  • The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC.

Finally, a few quotes about India;

We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.
Albert Einstein.

India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition.
Mark Twain.

If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India.
French scholar Romain Rolland.

India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.
Hu Shih. (Former Chinese ambassador to USA)


BUT, if we don't see even a glimpse of that great India in the India that we see today, it clearly means that we are not working up to our potential; and that if we do, we could once again be an ever shining and inspiring country setting a bright path for rest of the world to follow.

India is Calling!

Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Pachmarhi - An untouched beauty

Hi all,

Ok let me come straight to the point. I don't know how many of you have been to this place, but Pachmarhi or Panchmadhi in Madhya Pradesh, India is a place one needs to visit atleast once, especially in the winters. It is a beautiful hillstation lapped in the Satpuda Mountain ranges. The temperatures here drop to about 3-4 degreeC in the winter, but it is worth getting cold in this natural scenic beauty. And the reason I say it is untouched is because the place is not filled up with tourists so much so that even moving around becomes difficult. Famous getaways near Mumbai include places like Alibaug, Matheran, Mahabaleshwar, Lonavala - Khandala and the likes, but they all suffer from the one dreaded thing -- Gross Commercialisation -- these places have been milked by tourists and tour operators to an extent that they are too crowded for people to enjoy the scenic beauty. Ok I cannot exactly call Pachmarhi a weekend getaway considering it takes you more than half a day to reach the foothills of this place and then another hour or so to be there. Your Journey can begin by first reaching a railway station called Pipariya which is located close to Pachmarhi. Or you can even consider coming in from Bhopal or Nagpur which connect to the hillstation.
Since, I have said even before that I would not tell you stuff like how i plan to spend my weekend and what I had for breakfast today, I would definitely suggest you on how to plan your weekend in Panchmarhi and what special delicacies to enjoy here. If you ever happen to be here, first of all, come with the intention of spending atleast 3 to 4 days, because Pachmarhi is worth every second of your visit and every penny you spend here. An ideal schedule could be landing here on a Friday and returning on Sunday.
Places of interest can be easily obtained from a search on Google for Pachmarhi, so I would not spend my and your time on it. Hoewver, do not miss the Jatashankar caves and the Bee Falls. They are really cool. Also, the sunset at Dhoopgarh is worth a watch. It is commom in Indian Tourist places to have a sunset or a sunset point with the same Sun setting behind the same old mountains. But, the Dhoopgarh sunset is something different, something like the one you would see at Ranikhet near Nainital in Uttaranchal without the snow-clad peaks. For starters enjoy the snap shown here.
If you are an animal lover, you can take a one day trip to the Satpuda Wildlife Sanctuary at Madhai, some 40 Km from Pipariya. Although you need to take special permissions to visit this protected land, it is worth a ride. The vast landmass has (on last count) 14 Tigers, a substantial figure considering the sorry state of wildlife protection plans in India. The 4 male, 6 female and 4 cub cat family is accompanied by a host of other animals and birds including Bisons, Deer, Sambhars, Neel Gaay, Peacocks, Huge Crocs, Oars or wild looking pigs as also the omnipresent monkeys and bundars. As for the road from Pipariya to Madhai, I bet you it is better than the best patches of road on the Mumbai-Pune Expressway!!! The road then takes a diversion and a 10-odd Km. patch of village road ( surrounded on both sides by lush-green fields, straight out of a Yashraj Film) leads you to the banks of Denva River, which you can cross by taking a motor-boat. Albeit, do not go there without a valid permit and no I wont tell you how to obtain it. And all my best wishes with you for sighting a tiger there!
So, the next time you have spare time and are thinking about a place where you can take your family along and enjoy a good mix of some new (Gupt Mahadev, Bee Fall, Jatashankar et al) and some similar (Pandav Caves, Apsara Vihar, etc.) looking places, book your tickets to Pachmarhi. A variety of hotels are waiting for you.
Before I leave, a nice option to make your trip more memorable is to move North for one of the bigger cities in the central Indian state - Jabalpur. For details on this and the awesome Bedhaghat Falls join in to view my future posts, till then chao.